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NEW YORK — Kelsey Grammer likes his raw meat cut very fine. On a recent afternoon, at the restaurant of a midtown hotel, he requested that his steak tartare be put through the grinder twice. He wanted it, he said, like velvet. The tartare, topped with its quail egg, was presented roughly chopped. “I’ll deal with it,” Grammer said uncomplainingly.
Frasier Crane would never. On and off for 40 years on several different sitcoms, Grammer, 69, has played Frasier, a dyed-in-the-cashmere-wool snob and psychiatrist about town. The character is indelibly associated with Grammer. He can’t shake him, though Grammer mostly sees this as a boon.
“It’s wonderful to spend your lifetime entertaining people,” he said.
In 1984, Grammer, a stage actor who had studied at Juilliard, was cast on the sitcom “Cheers” as Frasier Crane, a love interest for Shelley Long’s waitress character, Diane Chambers. He stayed with the show until it ended in 1993.
That year, Grammer starred in a spinoff, “Frasier,” which saw the character move from Boston back to Seattle, where he lived with his father (John Mahoney) and frequently sparred with his brother (David Hyde Pierce). Grammer was often a tabloid fixture in those days, with an erratic personal life. Much married, he would eventually father seven children with four different women. He was arrested for drug possession and for driving under the influence. He now believes his chaotic behavior was a response to the trauma of his early life — in separate incidents, both his father and his sister were murdered.

But he stuck with the show until the 2004 finale. After that, Grammer moved on to other projects, but none lasted very long. And then in 2023, a “Frasier” reboot returned Frasier to Boston, reuniting him with his son, Freddy (Jack Cutmore-Scott), and his best friend, Alan (Nicholas Lyndhurst). The second season premiered last week on Paramount+.
In person, Grammer was startlingly tan, with bright white teeth and milky blue eyes. He wore a burgundy blazer in a subtle check. His mood was placid, upbeat, the attitude of a man who has spent much of his life in some proximity to an Applause sign. As he dabbed Worcestershire sauce on his chunky tartare, he discussed his character and career. (He also plugged his beer brand, Faith American. “It tastes like meritocracy,” he said.) These are edited excerpts from the conversation.
A: I was a snob about being a theater actor. I wanted to stay doing Shakespeare.
A: It meant an elevated lifestyle. And it was something I loved doing. It’s live theater, but with TV cameras. There’s nothing quite like that audience interaction, that fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants energy. I’ve grown addicted to that. And I have been able to bring all of creation into Frasier’s realm, from Shakespeare to slapstick comedy.
A: I grew up on the East Coast. I went to prep school. So it wasn’t that far out of my range. I just made him believable. I played him as though he were in love with Diane, in love for the first time in his life, deeply, for real. The key to this guy is that he loves with his whole heart.
A: It was not a spinoff at first. It was going to be something else. David Angell, Peter Casey and David Lee set out do to something different. I was a bit of a wild man, and we thought it would be fun if we capitalized more on that. We set up a situation where a character ran a business empire from his hospital bed because he was in a very severe motorcycle accident. We wrote the pilot. I went to dinner with John Pike, who was the president of Paramount Network Television. We ordered appetizers and I said, “What do you think?” He said, “I think sitcoms should be funny.” Then John said, “I want you to play Frasier.” I said, “OK, I’ll be Frasier.”
A: I refer to that period, my dissipation, in my life now as going through a very powerful healing. I’ve come out the other end with a great sense of appreciation for it, because I’ve always wanted to be a person who lived to the fullest. The work at the time, it saved me, because I had to show up for it. There were days when I did not show up, for sure, but most days I thought, I have to go to work. So I functioned.

A: It was fine to let “Frasier” go. I did some other things.
A: That’s why actors are afraid of television. “Frasier” is the indelible watermark of what I’ve done. I have nothing to cavil at, but you fear it’s going to be the end of your career. We think we’re never going to act again. It’s one of the conditions of being in the business. But it’s OK to get a great TV show, and it’s all right to make money. I have nothing to regret about that.
A: Because I knew I could. I wanted to do that kind of work again where I could bring great writers in and have great fun. And “Frasier” was always a substantive show about things that mattered, things of the heart — a relationship between two brothers and a character who finds a way to get through every day, no matter how hard it is. These are virtuous people and they’re funny. Going back was as simple as falling off a log.
A: He’s looking after people. He’s teaching. He’s reconnecting with his son in a way that he never had a chance to.
A: It really hasn’t. But coming back to Frasier has put a nice bow on it all.
A: That doesn’t go away. Years ago, I had a Corvette I was driving out of the lot. And Kenny Lamkin, who was our [cinematographer] on the show, he said, “Kelsey, what do you want to be when you grow up?” And I said, “6.”

A: In the last show, I want to quote Tennyson, “Ulysses”: “To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.” That’s the way I want it to end, with a sense that there is still a beginning, an unknown, a place to go.
A: For me to be anything else would be a problem. I don’t go along with a lot of what is preached in Hollywood. I go along with what is preached in Christianity. I go along with do unto others as you would have others do unto you. And I believe in all people: I believe in their desires and their lives and their worth. I want to make shows about that. I don’t want to hate anybody.
A: To remain relevant. I think this show could last another decade. And I want to be a good father. I have wonderful kids. I’m still working on a relationship with my older kids; I missed some chances there. With the younger ones, I’m in their lives and I’m sticking with it.
This article originally appeared in The New York Times.
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